other sectors of the economy don't necessary sli that. manufacturers do. and every other country out there has incentives to attract manufacturing. whether it's the low road like china or the high road like germany f we're not in that game, we're going to be sitting on the sidelines and lose jobs. we've seen. that our manufacturing goods, trade deficit has gone up. >> that might be true that some play dirty, with don't we as well snt risk becomes that we encourage mal investment. all the things that make the united states unique and special over the past 100-odd years in the economy and that's innovation. and that's resilience had to do little with subsidies. little with special treatment but rather equal playing field. let's not corrupt what is made special to play dirty to keep up with the dirty players. >> i'm not suggest we go play dirty. i disagree with your economic history a little bit. every successful industry that's been incubated in the united states has been subsidized like sems and you can go back to the telegraph and find. that i think we hav